Purple Arrow
Here's a topic for you zombies to choke on. Hawkeye's recent resurrection is further proof that he's just a sad Green Arrow wannabe. LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE!
posted by Dominic at 9:45 PM
Thursday, August 11, 2005
Here's a topic for you zombies to choke on. Hawkeye's recent resurrection is further proof that he's just a sad Green Arrow wannabe. LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE!
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I will comment on this..and soon.
A sad Green Arrow wannabe?
Really.
Green Arrow is really just a sad Robinson Crueso knock-off...except he made a bow and didn't have a guy named Friday.
And Green Arrow? What the hell kind of name is that? When did he first show up? Fifties? Early sixties? We agree that Green Arrow came first. But why the crappy name? If Green Arrow was first, why didn't he take the name Hawkeye? One wonders...
An unnatural man-love for the color green...?
Oh yeah...
So Green Arrow is the only person who can use a bow to fight crime?
By that reasoning Superman should be the only person who can fly.
Or have Super-strength.
Or have freezer breath.
Or be really fast.
Or be really boring.
You get the idea...
He's called Green Arrow for the same reason as the Green Hornet, Breen Lantern, Crimson Avenger, or any other hero with a color before their name. Because you can't trademark a common noun like Arrow, Hornet, Lantern, or Avenger.
And you know damn well that originally Green Arrow was a sad Batman wannabe. His first appearance was in More Fun Comics #73 back in 1941. Not sure how you mean that as a criticism.
"By that reasoning Superman should be the only person who can fly.
Or have Super-strength.
Or have freezer breath.
Or be really fast.
Or be really boring. "
Well, that was enough to get Fawcet Comics sued.
You are missing the point of my snide comments about GA's name.
Green Arrow is a stupid name.
Blue Arrow would have been a stupid name.
The name 'Hawkeye' was just laying around, not being used for over 20 years.
In fact, the last person to use it, who could actually use a Bow, was Natty Bumpo.
But the geniuses at National Comics/Superman Comics/DC Comics named him Green Arrow.
You should be embarassed you even brought this up.
Hawkeye and Green Arrow, after you get past the Bows and Arrows, and the fact that they both have blond hair are completely different characters.
Hawkeye was a trick-shot artist at a circus and decided he wanted to become a super-hero when he saw Iron Man.
I am a little fuzzy on GA's origin, because he is so old and boring, but in the Long Bow Hunters mini-series, he was stranded on island after a plane and taught himself to use a bow to survive.
When he came back to the US...he decided he didn't want to be a prick anymore and started fighting bad guys with a bow and arrow. You know, to make up for being such a prick.
So let me see if I can follow your argument- Green Arrow sucks because he's not named Hawkeye? Wow, you've run circles 'round me with your logic.
You want a stupid name? I'll give you a stupid name. Try this one on for size- The Silver Surfer. OH YEAH! MARVEL RULES! Rules in the stupid name contest, that is.
Well, you clearly can't follow my logic...because you apparently cannot even read.
I never said Green Arrow sucks...I said the name Green Arrow sucks.
You are the one who dragged Green Arrow into this. When you attacked Hawkeye for no good reason...just to get a rise out of me.
I like both characters. I just like Hawkeye more.
Green Arrow is a stupid name. So is Silver Surfer. I never liked him. You can have him...he's more a DC character anyway. Just stand him next to Crimson Avenger, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Blue Beetle, Blue Devil and all of DC's wonderful colorful characters.
And before you pull Black Bolt out of your ass, you can have him too.
This thread was begun by you accidentally typing some words in a sentence saying Hawkeye is a Green Arrow knock-off...a sad wannabe.
You're right handed. So am I. But I was born first...so you're just a cheap knock-off of me.
You're sad wannabe Zombie.
Pathetic.
Am not- nyah. :P
Hawkeye needs a sidekick called "Dopey"
*snicker*
and hey - when it comes to story ideas being lifted and the accomplishments of of heros having been done before -
Well, Jesus stole his act from Apollo.
Stealing/borrowing/revamping character concepts and themes is an idea as old as storytelling. It's tradition.
the question is - does the new version make for an interesting story?
I'm a fan of Ollie and Clint. It's just the green kicks the purple's ass in any throwdown is all.
that's just my sfb (silly fanboy opinion).
and as to the back from the dead thing. Do i need to go into how deeply ingraned THIS litte number is in the comic book field? They've brought back JASON BEAT TO A PULP AND BLOWN UP TODD for crying out loud.
And there's rumors that even Bucky Barnes is coming back.
what the heck?
If Uncle Ben comes back, that's the Trifecta!
"Green Arrow is a stupid name. So is Silver Surfer. I never liked him. You can have him...he's more a DC character anyway.
And before you pull Black Bolt out of your ass, you can have him too. "
Look, Bill, the whole point of this project is to discuss who is better, DC or Marvel. You can't dismiss your side's bad points by saying "You can have him." You have to acknowledge them, own them, and mark them down in the SUCK column. So, you mark down the Silver Surfer, Brother Voodoo, Secret Wars II, The New Universe, X-Force, Heroes Reborn, Epic, Peter Parker’s Clone, and Trouble.
And I'll mark down...mmm...let me see...The Black Rider.
Sorry, I ment the Black Racer.
you mean there is no Black Rider?
Ah...the suck column...
Ok...lemme see...DC from 1960 to about 1986.
There...I'm done.
Come now, the entier DC silver age does not suck. That's just ridiculous.
'That's just ridiculous.'
A favorite rebuttal.
But you are right...Not everything DC put for over 25 years sucked.
There was Neal Adams and Denny O'Neil's runs on Batman and Green Lantern/ Green Arrow.
Steve Englehart and Marshall Rogers' Batman run.
Jim Shooter Legion stories.
Marv Wolfman and George Perez's New Teen Titans.
A couple of Alan Moore things.
And Curt Swan.
See, I'm helping you make your argument.
What else?
Oh by the way...
The Silver Age started in the fifties, not the sixties.
I think it's commonly referred to as beginning with the first appearance of Barry Allen's Flash. That would be 1956.
I never said anything bad about that.
Since you're making my argument for me, then I guess my work here is done.
Nope.
Actually, Bill, there is no real consensus (i think that's spelled wrong, I'm just feeling phonetic and have no urge to drag out the dictionary) on wether the silver age started in the 50's or 60's - some even say it was the 70's.
just another pointless thing comic book geeks argue over.
yeah - i'm no zombie or fanboy - I'm a geek.
damnitt.
Nope Shaggy. There is a consensus.
Most agree that the Silver Age began with the first appearance of BArry Allen. 1956.
The MArvel Age began in 1961.
Any retailer that specializes in Silver Age comics says it's from 1956 to 1969.
I reject your reality, and sustitute my own.
so nyah!
Yes, the silver age started with the new Flash. I just thought he appeared later. But, I'd say that it lasted all the way up to Crisis on Infinite Earths. Why do they say it ended in 69?
yeah, I've heard similar on the "end" of Silver age - that mid-80's (around Crisis and DKR) comics entered the "Dark Age".
Best agument for calling it Dark Age - the creation of Cable.
Death to Liefield.
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